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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://eligere.wordpress.com/2008/05/06/opensolaris-200805-sucks-big-time-wip/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just wasted the past 2 hours trying to get a clean installation of OpenSolaris to see the internet, and no luck.  You couldn&#039;t be more right... what a POS!  Other linux installs I&#039;ve used JUST WORK, no bullshit.  I really don&#039;t understand what people see in Sun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just wasted the past 2 hours trying to get a clean installation of OpenSolaris to see the internet, and no luck.  You couldn&#8217;t be more right&#8230; what a POS!  Other linux installs I&#8217;ve used JUST WORK, no bullshit.  I really don&#8217;t understand what people see in Sun.</p>
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		<title>By: Solaris Admin</title>
		<link>http://eligere.wordpress.com/2008/05/06/opensolaris-200805-sucks-big-time-wip/#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>Solaris Admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 14:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been administering Sun since before the advent of Solaris.  I can tell you that OpenSolaris is crap and is not really Solaris at all. It appears that the OpenSolaris community is hammering together a kluge that is loosely based on Solaris, but trying to make it as idiot-proof as OS X and have a Windoze look-and-feel.  Well, the result is crap.  Nothing works as it should and the configuration and functionality IS NOT SVR4.  And removing CDE in favor of JDE?  What a joke.  Stick with Solaris 10 and leave OpenSolaris to the script kiddies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been administering Sun since before the advent of Solaris.  I can tell you that OpenSolaris is crap and is not really Solaris at all. It appears that the OpenSolaris community is hammering together a kluge that is loosely based on Solaris, but trying to make it as idiot-proof as OS X and have a Windoze look-and-feel.  Well, the result is crap.  Nothing works as it should and the configuration and functionality IS NOT SVR4.  And removing CDE in favor of JDE?  What a joke.  Stick with Solaris 10 and leave OpenSolaris to the script kiddies.</p>
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		<title>By: Mick Russom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mick Russom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Longtime Solaris user. I have a copy of SunOS 4.1.4 (original media) and have used 2.5.1-10.

OpenSolaris is the worst piece of shit I have ever seen from sun. Package management sucks. Everything is broken. &quot;SXDE&quot; (before they canceled it in favor of this shit)  is 10x better than this.

2008.11 sucks as well. 

It comes down to this. Linux in general is taking Windows and OS X&#039;s table scraps for the Desktop market.

All the changes here piss off long-time Solaris users and try to make it more desktoppy, which many Linuxes do better than this shit. 

So Sun is going for TEH WIN by trying to get the table scraps from Linux which is trying to get the table scraps from Windows &amp;&amp; OS X?

Retarded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Longtime Solaris user. I have a copy of SunOS 4.1.4 (original media) and have used 2.5.1-10.</p>
<p>OpenSolaris is the worst piece of shit I have ever seen from sun. Package management sucks. Everything is broken. &#8220;SXDE&#8221; (before they canceled it in favor of this shit)  is 10x better than this.</p>
<p>2008.11 sucks as well. </p>
<p>It comes down to this. Linux in general is taking Windows and OS X&#8217;s table scraps for the Desktop market.</p>
<p>All the changes here piss off long-time Solaris users and try to make it more desktoppy, which many Linuxes do better than this shit. </p>
<p>So Sun is going for TEH WIN by trying to get the table scraps from Linux which is trying to get the table scraps from Windows &amp;&amp; OS X?</p>
<p>Retarded.</p>
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		<title>By: karthik chowdary .N</title>
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		<dc:creator>karthik chowdary .N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 17:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dint expect this stuff from sun ,maaahn this ones jst so slow and u need lot of patience to use this and adding it on a multi boot system is jst hectic and horrible,no audio drivers i dnt knw y duid they come up wid such kind of stuff,hope to see them make this into a gudd usefull one

cheers!
K.C</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dint expect this stuff from sun ,maaahn this ones jst so slow and u need lot of patience to use this and adding it on a multi boot system is jst hectic and horrible,no audio drivers i dnt knw y duid they come up wid such kind of stuff,hope to see them make this into a gudd usefull one</p>
<p>cheers!<br />
K.C</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
		<link>http://eligere.wordpress.com/2008/05/06/opensolaris-200805-sucks-big-time-wip/#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 02:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello i have recently used live cd of opensolaris it works fine for me it took only 2-3 minutes to load i have 1GB ram so you know</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello i have recently used live cd of opensolaris it works fine for me it took only 2-3 minutes to load i have 1GB ram so you know</p>
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		<title>By: GunSlinger</title>
		<link>http://eligere.wordpress.com/2008/05/06/opensolaris-200805-sucks-big-time-wip/#comment-55</link>
		<dc:creator>GunSlinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No LAN support.. enough said. Package system is down even when you get the LAN driver working. Ok, SUN you are a step to late in gathering this marketshare, while we appreciate (as a majority) your attempt at the open source market.... stick with what works for you. Backing existing distros would further your reputation much more than releasing a broken (not well thought out) distro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No LAN support.. enough said. Package system is down even when you get the LAN driver working. Ok, SUN you are a step to late in gathering this marketshare, while we appreciate (as a majority) your attempt at the open source market&#8230;. stick with what works for you. Backing existing distros would further your reputation much more than releasing a broken (not well thought out) distro.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 00:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t even get it installed. Though I&#039;m running Solaris Express Developers edition on the laptop I&#039;m trying to install OpenSolaris on.
It&#039;s a boat load of fuck, to quote the angry nintendo nerd,
BTW I can install Belenix on it, but f&amp;cking sound doesn&#039;t work. Belenix live works, but my damn wireless stops.
I&#039;m sticking with SXDE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t even get it installed. Though I&#8217;m running Solaris Express Developers edition on the laptop I&#8217;m trying to install OpenSolaris on.<br />
It&#8217;s a boat load of fuck, to quote the angry nintendo nerd,<br />
BTW I can install Belenix on it, but f&amp;cking sound doesn&#8217;t work. Belenix live works, but my damn wireless stops.<br />
I&#8217;m sticking with SXDE.</p>
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		<title>By: eligere</title>
		<link>http://eligere.wordpress.com/2008/05/06/opensolaris-200805-sucks-big-time-wip/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>eligere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 03:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Brian,

&gt;&gt;&gt; next to no drivers for lan cards

Agreed about the LAN drivers.

&gt;&gt;&gt; next to no audio drivers

For audio did you try OSS (http://www.opensound.com/)?
I think it should solve audio related issues on solaris.

&gt;&gt;&gt; Pathetic . One crippled release after another .The lack of support
for lan cards is particularly pathetic . How is one to even attempt
fixing problems with the OS if the garbage can&#039;t even do the basic
task of connecting to the internet ?   Can it be that hard to include
drivers for common hardware that has been out for years now ? If you
can&#039;t do any better Sun , stop wasting your time and my bandwidth.

+ Its slow as hell!

After using FreeBSD 7.0 on 64MB RAM and being used to running
Ubuntu Server, CentOS I find opensolaris to be very slow even on
1GB boxes. It is just me?

Lets hope they do better next time!

--
dsk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brian,</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; next to no drivers for lan cards</p>
<p>Agreed about the LAN drivers.</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; next to no audio drivers</p>
<p>For audio did you try OSS (<a href="http://www.opensound.com/)?" rel="nofollow">http://www.opensound.com/)?</a><br />
I think it should solve audio related issues on solaris.</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; Pathetic . One crippled release after another .The lack of support<br />
for lan cards is particularly pathetic . How is one to even attempt<br />
fixing problems with the OS if the garbage can&#8217;t even do the basic<br />
task of connecting to the internet ?   Can it be that hard to include<br />
drivers for common hardware that has been out for years now ? If you<br />
can&#8217;t do any better Sun , stop wasting your time and my bandwidth.</p>
<p>+ Its slow as hell!</p>
<p>After using FreeBSD 7.0 on 64MB RAM and being used to running<br />
Ubuntu Server, CentOS I find opensolaris to be very slow even on<br />
1GB boxes. It is just me?</p>
<p>Lets hope they do better next time!</p>
<p>&#8211;<br />
dsk</p>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 22:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>- next to no audio drivers
- next to no drivers for lan cards 

Pathetic . One crippled release after another .The lack of support for lan cards is particularly pathetic . How is one to even attempt fixing problems with the OS if the garbage can&#039;t even do the basic task of connecting to the internet ?   Can it be that hard to include drivers for common hardware that has been out for years now ? If you can&#039;t do any better Sun , stop wasting your time and my bandwidth .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- next to no audio drivers<br />
- next to no drivers for lan cards </p>
<p>Pathetic . One crippled release after another .The lack of support for lan cards is particularly pathetic . How is one to even attempt fixing problems with the OS if the garbage can&#8217;t even do the basic task of connecting to the internet ?   Can it be that hard to include drivers for common hardware that has been out for years now ? If you can&#8217;t do any better Sun , stop wasting your time and my bandwidth .</p>
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